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szelynn	acne on chin?		Lead	[-]
Posts: 66 Mar 14, 2008 09:11:04 Critter Lover	Tags : dogs, canine acne This is a problem Kali's had her whole life - we know it's from her chin rubbing on her bowls, my ex told me he's tried everything stainless steel, ceramic etc., and he said the only solution he's had is to just put her food on the floor for her to eat and the acne went away Any other suggestions? I would really prefer to not have it on the floor - but I guess if there's no choice then there's no choice Edited by Suse: Added search tags to OP. Last Edited By: sniksnak Mar 15, 2008 01:21:57. Edited 1 time.
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firemanslady		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4566 Mar 14, 2008 09:26:24 Critter Companion	Maybe a paper plate or even a glass plate that won't touch the chin while eating? A large but shallow bowl might work as well. Hopefully someone else here will have more ideas.
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sniksnak		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 21918 Mar 14, 2008 18:44:01 FF&F Staff Administrator, Owner Suse Totally Caffeinated	Many vets theorize that it's caused from using plastic dishes for feeding. However, I've never used plastic dishes for my pets and have had both cats and dogs develop acne. They have always been fed from china, stoneware, or stainless steel bowls. I believe as my vets do, that there are some animals who can't wash their chins very well. You may have to wash her face for her and give her frequent baths. My vets gave me OxyDex Gel for the acne. It's a topical antibacterial therapy which is excellent in clearing up acne. Rub it into the affected area on Kali and wash your hands well afterwards. It has reports of human contact sensitivity if left on human skin too long. A tube will last for ages. You don't need to use much per application. When acne doesn't respond to topical treatment, you'll need to consider whether or not it really is acne, or if it is one of the conditions that can mimic it, such as ringworm, contact allergies, food allergies, yeast infections or demodectic mange. Keep us posted and the very best of luck!
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sniksnak		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 21918 Mar 15, 2008 01:23:33 FF&F Staff Administrator, Owner Suse Totally Caffeinated	I failed to include a link about dog acne in my previous post: http://www.sniksnak.com/doghealth/acne.html Hopes this helps.
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sun569		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1210 Mar 15, 2008 11:16:00 Critter Companion Human in Training	How about a glass pyrex pie pan. It's shallow, but has an inch or so edge to help keep the food where you need it to be. Also, I would suggest using a clean soft cloth and wiping the chin after each meal with just plain water. Good luck.
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sniksnak		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 21918 Mar 15, 2008 11:21:53 FF&F Staff Administrator, Owner Suse Totally Caffeinated	sun569 wrote: I would suggest using a clean soft cloth and wiping the chin after each meal with just plain water. For right now, you'll need to address the acne. Once the chin has been medicated with a topical antibacterial and healed, washing her with plain water is fine.
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sun569		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1210 Mar 15, 2008 14:34:36 Critter Companion Human in Training	Thanks Suse... I guess I didn't state that correctly. I did mean after the acne is cleared up. You have to handle the primnary situation, get that under control, then to avoid any further acne, use the wipe the chin clean idea. Sorry I mistated that. Keep us posted on how your furkid is doing
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sniksnak		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 21918 Mar 15, 2008 14:43:22 FF&F Staff Administrator, Owner Suse Totally Caffeinated	Susan, I was jumping on between Yuku server problems, so hoped I would get the clarification posted before it went down again. Thanks for popping back in. Isn't strange how our fingers take over our minds? We know what we're saying, but dem ole fAngers jes say what they wanna.
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szelynn79		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5 Mar 15, 2008 17:11:13 Littermate	Well this is what her previous owner had told me, I just got her back last night He said no matter what bowls he tried to use she would still get acne, but when he just put the food on the floor she never had this problem again...I just have a problem with it on the floor But of course if there's no other solution then that's fine, I'd rather not have the acne.
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sniksnak		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 21918 Mar 15, 2008 19:08:39 FF&F Staff Administrator, Owner Suse Totally Caffeinated	In this post I explained that you will need to address the acne - take her to the vet or drop by your vet's office and ask for the antibacterial ointment that I suggested for acne. The cause isn't definitely known why dogs and cats get acne, but it's highly probable that it's because they may not wash themselves properly, not the fact that it's the dishes they eat from. All animals clean themselves, but some don't do it as well as others.
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sun569		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1210 Mar 15, 2008 19:55:06 Critter Companion Human in Training	I have to agree that you need the vet's assistance in the acne first and foremost, then you can maintain it after that. A low, edged bowl with food, wiping the chin afterwards will further maintain the care. Also, warm water works best, It may take some time,and maybe some trials on food bowls to get it figured out, but it can happen. May I ask what type dog? Is the bowl the correct size for the size of dog?
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firemanslady		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4566 Mar 16, 2008 07:59:36 Critter Companion	Some good advice has been given, there should be no reason to feed her off the floor. Try the ointment, as suggested, and I bet you and she will be happy with the results. Please keep us updated. Looking forward to hearing more about her.
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szelynn79		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5 Mar 16, 2008 09:01:02 Littermate	she doesn't have any acne right now with her eating off the floor when I got her he didn't even give me a bowl for her i'm more concerned that if I get her a bowl that she will get acne again she's a Lab, so she's not concerned with cleanliness - she's just concerned about wolfing the food down as fast as she can
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sniksnak		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 21918 Mar 16, 2008 11:03:21 FF&F Staff Administrator, Owner Suse Totally Caffeinated	In this post I explained that you will need to address the acne - take her to the vet or drop by your vet's office and ask for the antibacterial ointment that I suggested for acne. The cause isn't definitely known why dogs and cats get acne, but it's highly probable that it's because they may not wash themselves properly, not the fact that it's the dishes they eat from. All animals clean themselves, but some don't do it as well as others. Get some topical antibacterial ointment to have on hand. Feed her in a dish. If the acne comes back, it's probably because she doesn't lick her chin clean. Do that (not licking, but cleaning her chin) for her so that you'll know that her chin is clean and that will help rule out acne. If the ointment doesn't clear it up, then it's another issue that needs to be addressed which I brought up in yet another post. When acne doesn't respond to topical treatment, you'll need to consider whether or not it really is acne, or if it is one of the conditions that can mimic it, such as ringworm, contact allergies, food allergies, yeast infections or demodectic mange.
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szelynn		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 66 Mar 27, 2008 19:31:16 Critter Lover	Thanks everyone for your suggestions - I've bought a bowl for her and she's been using it for about a week and a half now. I've been cleaning it each time, and wiping her mouth with a warm wet cloth after each meal and it seems to clear so far. I suppose her previous owner (my ex) was just a dummy (big surprise there) He didn't even have her spayed, vaccinated, or even groomed at all - I was so upset when I picked her up!
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sniksnak		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 21918 Mar 27, 2008 21:05:33 FF&F Staff Administrator, Owner Suse Totally Caffeinated	Poor little girl. Well, she's in good hands now and I know you will find much joy with her. Has she been to the vet since you've gotten her home with you? Let us know how it goes and do let us know when she's scheduled for spaying. We'll be thinking of y'all and sending good vibes your way!
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szelynn		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 66 Mar 27, 2008 21:14:59 Critter Lover	Yes we took her to the vet the first week we had her, turns out the weekend we got her she JUST started to be in heat - what great luck! So the vet won't spay her while she's in heat, and we can't get her done until 2 months after she's done. But my vet is really great, it's about $600 to get her spayed so the vet said if I get it done she'll throw in cleaning her teeth and remove the cyst on her back and a tumour that's on her leg. In the meantime I'm trying to deal with diapers! lol ew
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sniksnak		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 21918 Mar 27, 2008 21:21:07 FF&F Staff Administrator, Owner Suse Totally Caffeinated	Yes, at her age, it would be very, very risky to perform a spay during a heat. I'm so happy to learn that you're going ahead with the surgery, though. Oh my, doggie diapers - it's been a long, long time since I've been around any dogs in heat, but I do remember well! I don't envy you one bit!
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firemanslady		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4566 Mar 28, 2008 07:30:58 Critter Companion	So glad to hear she's in good hands now. I'm sure she will thrive with you. Poor thing sounds like she could use a lot of love to make up for the neglect of her past...I'm sure she will get that now.
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